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When Friends become flaky

Last post 07-31-2008 2:17 PM by Constance Bates. 5 replies.
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  • 07-29-2008 7:00 AM

    When Friends become flaky

    Thank you so much for todays Creative Quickie "Wat to Do When a Friend Becomes Flaky".  I am always pondering the ins and outs and ups and downs of friendship and this was very consoling to me.  There certainly have been times that my friends needed some space and I took the negative way out.  I appreciate this article; it supports me taking the other route. 

     

    Student of Life dabbling in Writing, Collage, Quilting, Slapping Paint Around, and Various other Amusements
  • 07-29-2008 1:46 PM In reply to

    • Constance Bates
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    Re: When Friends become flaky

    This CQ was particularly meaningful to me -- and Sooz, I've experienced this from both sides: I've been the flakey one, and I've been on the other end.

    Here's what I know (even when I don't do it).

    1. When a "flakey" but "normal" friend does or says things that make you uncomfortable to the point of your needing to resist or retreat, try the Biblical injunction:

    a. Go to the person in humility and truth.

    b. If that doesn't work, go to someone trustworthy who is in authority over you both, or meet together with an agreed arbitrator.

    c. If that doesn't work, state (in humility and truth) your plan to exit the relationship; then avoid further involvement, including maligning the person to others in word or deed.

    d. Leave room for the "flake" to heal, reconsider, ask forgiveness, be forgiven, and perhaps even return (with reasonable caution on your part) in some capacity in the future.

    2. When a "flakey" friend wears a red-zone clinical diagnosis like a form-fitting sweater, nothing positive will be attained; there is no rational compromise for irrational people.  So why would you follow any injunctions, formalities, or spiritual rules with such a person?

    -- To maintain your own integrity before God and others.

    -- To set a model of right actions for your own children.

    -- So you don't fall into negative thought about it for the rest of your life.

    -- To allow for healing on both sides.

     

    cb


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  • 07-31-2008 12:43 AM In reply to

    • qbudoesart
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    Re: When Friends become flaky

    My thanks to you, soozwillamuse, and also to Contance, for validating my choice to use 'What to Do When a Friend Becomes Flaky' in Tuesday's Daily Muse.  I sometimes wonder whether I'm finding articles that suit the desires and needs of the readers or just suiting myself.  Since I've gone through a few episodes of flaky friends (and relatives) through the years (and probably fallen into that category myself from time to time) this article just seemed to call out to me, but I put it in wondering if I'd 'crossed the line' concerning what people want to see in the Tuesday Creative Quickie for Friends column.

     Lately I've been trying to figure out when and why the word 'relationship' is as close a search topic as most directories have for 'friendship'.  I've always considered a friendship to be a type of relationship, but too often the articles I find read like a how-to for finding a man or woman on line.  Don't get me wrong, I've done that (actually had a great marriage that started out on line) and still have several guy friends who keep in touch even though we no longer date.  But for the Daily Muse I look for articles that call to mind the older (read that 'pre-online') definition of friendship which seldom, if ever, becomes more than friendship.  Maybe it's just my age showing itself, but I consider old fashioned friendship to be one of the greatest gifts I can enjoy.

     So I just want to thank you for your comments (and loudly cast an agreeing vote with Constance's suggestions.)  Concerning Constance's comments, I do suggest substituting the term 'mediator' in place of 'arbitrator'.  Mediation and arbitration are two distinctly different forms of Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) which have become remarkably helpful in commercial litigation, family law and other types of litigation.  I mention changing the focus to a mediator because mediators are trained to act as a neutral third party, meeting with each of the parties individually, all together as a group, and again individually.  Each of these sessions gives the mediator an opportunity to hear the party's story and learn directly from the inidividual what points are important to them.  A mediator listens to all sides and then tries to learn what outcome each party desires.  A properly mediated conflict can usually be turned into a resolution where the parties each feel they have won where it is important for them to win, and have given lesser points to the opposition which that side considers to be impotrant points for them to win.  With the mjediator's help the parties prepare a final document which is then entered into the court record as the final ruling

    When an arbitration is used there are usually one to three retired judges who review the case and have a scaled down trial outside the normal courtroom schedule.  Depending on the nature of the case and its complexity, artibration is sometimes the best choice, but the result of an arbitration is that the judges rule as they see fit and their ruling maynot resolve the matter to the satisfaction of either party.  The satisfaction of the parties after arbitration is often impacted the most by the judges' personalities and how intent they are  on pushing their own preferred solutions on the parties.  The judges may be retired, but they tend to demand that the parties treat them as though they are all knowing and know one else can make an adequate decision. 

     As a trained mediator, I am familiar with the routine outcomes of these two types of procedures and feel that in most case where the parties are individuals or small businesses the mediation model is more likely to result in a WIN-WIN solution for the parties.

    Okay, I'll shut up now after just one more thing.  Please feel free to forward to me items that you feel would be well accepted in the Creative Quickies or the Blissness column or send me the URL for something you find and like. 

     My job is to find worthwhile columns to attract readers to Creative Quickies and Blissness each day.  The more information and feedback I hear about the columns I select, the better I get to know  what you readers want to see.

     So--Thanks for any and all comments and suggestions.  I may be the one choosing that goes in each day,  But you can steer me to where you want me to go!

    Linda Williams, Editor for Blissness and Editor for Creative Quickie

    When I have time I Blog as QBU Tries to Do Art and my gallery is QBU's Artistic Attempts

     

    Linda Williams aka 'QBU' here in the Cafe
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  • 07-31-2008 6:13 AM In reply to

    • Billizetti
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    Re: When Friends become flaky

    I wrote a haiku in the Alphabetical Haiku Challenge Forum after having read your article about friendship earlier in the day.  You are definitely on the right track!  Big Smile 

    Bill Charlebois

    You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. - Robin Williams
  • 07-31-2008 10:34 AM In reply to

    Re: When Friends become flaky

    Thank you, Linda.  Not only was the original article interesting and useful, now so is your follow-up.  I did not know any of that about mediation, and found it very interesting! 

    sw

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  • 07-31-2008 2:17 PM In reply to

    • Constance Bates
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    Re: When Friends become flaky

    Bill, thanks for turning stomach churning into beauty!!

    Sooz, I'm with you: I didn't know the difference between mediation and arbitration, either. And how WONDERFUL to know, Linda, that you're a trained mediator!  (I love the concept of Win/Win -- it's my work mantra.)

    I especially appreciate Linda's Call for Submissions or links!  The Creative Quickie can handle short-short tutorials, by the way, not just advice and info; that may be the quickest, easiest way for you to break into print!

     

    Okay, I'm immediately editing out some of my prior post... got it out of my system and want to begin the Win/Win part!

    cb 

     

     

    Constance

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